Ed. Note - Normally I’m not a fan of posting stories about other teams without it having a direct relevance to Arsenal, but since this is a International Week anything (just about) goes…
ALRIGHTY!
So Moron-ho lied about the Barca coach entering the ref’s dressing room. This causes Frisk to quit refereeing after getting death threats from those lovable Chelsea supporters. Also, planted that seed in the minds of the refs in the rematch, so they gain a little extra edge at home.
PREVIOUSLY!
They meet illegally with one of Arsenal’s best players 2 days before Arsenal’s biggest match of the year. This totally messes up Ash for the day, week, month? (How long did he carry that scowl?)…
and has a debilitating affect on the fantastic comraderie that USED to be in the Arsenal locker room. Later on, its discovered that he earlier tapped up Steven Gerrard of Liverpool as well.
Whats the punishment for this mad man that is trying to ruin football?
How about “THROWING THEM OUT OF THE CHAMPION’S LEAGUE”… yes, this is an option.
How about deducting 10 points, (maybe 6-10 points) from the league total!!!
I know, I know…. maybe I am out of my mind. The thoughts / ideas popped into my head. But, take a serious look at what Chelsea/Mourinho has done. Tell me if you think its possible that these actions had an affect on Arsenal? on Cole? On the referees in the 2nd leg v. Barca.???
ALL DEFINITE POSSIBILITIES. Mind games are one thing. Alex Ferguson and his stupid commentary is harmless. This, quite possibly, is something far worse… far more sinister.
Simply… cause for thought.
The possibility that Mourinho pre-mediated these actions is not so far fetched as one might first think.
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March 22nd, 2005 at 9:16 am
Chelsea need to be punished, and punished in such a way that the punishment hurts them. In other words, a fine would not be a punishment no matter what the figure.
However, I sincerely hope they are not docked points, for 2 reasons. Firstly, if they were docked points and ended up not winning the league as a result, it would be a very hollow victory for the team that did win it. Secondly, it would set a very dangerous precedent, especially seeing as though all clubs have at some point been guilty of tapping up players.
IMO a fitting punishment would be a transfer ban for a year. No players in or out for one full year, followed by a suspended ban of an additional 2 years. That will certainly make them re-think their arrogant approach to almost everything they are doing.
March 22nd, 2005 at 9:18 am
On this month’s issue of “Shoot Monthly” magazine, Martin Tyler was praising Mourinho and Chelsea for their GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT referring to their defeat after Newcastle match.
Tyler pointed out former Newcastle boss’ remark a few seasons back [after their win at Highbury] that the importance of dignity in both victory and defeat. And Mr. Tyler clearly felt Mourinho and Chelsea had it. Who can blame him, he didn’t know what’s going to happen next did he?
Then came the Barcelona match… GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT???!!! I am waiting for the next issue of Shoot Monthly and see what Martin Tyler is going to say….
Stag, not to worry about Mourinho. He’s upsetting everybody with his big mouth now, sometimes i can’t help but wondering things have been going to easily for him in his short management career. Every manager, just like their teams, would have their up and down. I won’t say he can’t handle it when things start go wrong for him one day, just the way things going, he’s certainly not doing himself any favour.
No doubt Chelsea been doing well, and they are the strongest in term of spending power. Yet the way the been trying to steal away other clubs’ best players in an UNPROFESSIONAL way, and the way their manager been behaviouring, I have a feeling they will become the netural fans MOST HATED TEAM in the very near future. And one day when they fall, apart from their own fans and a bunch of glory hunters, can’t help but wondering who else would be on their side… God bless them.
March 22nd, 2005 at 9:39 am
Intriguing post, full of espionage and cloak and dagger. We just might see this one get full support this time around.
I’m not entirely convinced that Mourinho had anything disruptive, or sinisiter, in mind. I think he might be extremely arrogant, made worse by the blank checks he’s allowed. But I don’t see him calculating a coup of the league by tapping up players and lying about referees. He just wants what he wants NOW. And when he’s under pressure he acts like a spoiled child, making up stories and acting out. To put it simply: he’s more of a d*cktator, than a terrorist.
Barca knew the truth, knew they would be vindicated, and lost the second leg because they couldn’t defend. If anything, they may have thought Jose’s tantrums would work in their favor. The biggest fallout to me was how it demonstrated that a man with nothing to account for can take a situation?the horrible treatment of referees by players and fans alike?and bring it to the highest level. Without fear of retribution, Jose is going to expose a lot of things the FA have failed to regulate properly simply because he can.
Secondly, Cole wasn’t getting paid enough, and was probably looking for attention prior to the meeting. Contract negotiations under DD and Wenger have been wonky and uneven for years. In walks Kenyon and Mourinho. Another situation exposed…Arsenal appear to value their new stadium and future more than the players that helped make it happen. Again, the situation was there, and Chelsea’s roubles brought it to light because money and power can do that.
What should be done? Personally, I’d like to see Mourinho banned from the sidelines for a while. That will infuriate him and tarnish his accomplishments for televised history. Imagine, winning an important game but the cameras can’t see you. Celebrations without you. Devastating for a man of his ego. Docking points is sore loser talk, and throwing them out of the Champions League is more of the same and far too severe. Regardless of the mechinations that brought that team together, his lads play their hearts out and don’t deserve to be punished for their manager being an annoying, arrogant twit.
In time, as Gerard has pointed out, things will settle justly. Karma will kick in. And those deserving of misery will be dealt their fair share. Case in Point: Ferguson. He’s failed to win the title in two consecutive seasons and has been knocked out of the CL again. After all he’s done for the club, he’s considered a failure. Dill will sack him and he will look the fool.
Mourinho’s day is on the horizon.
March 22nd, 2005 at 11:48 am
Well I don?t want to harp on about the same thing, time in and time out, but as this is the topic of the day it?s time to do just that, I?m back to the old saw and bending it to make the same ranting sounds yet again.
At the risk of sounding as if I?m wearing a white collar surrounded by black, I am forced to fall back on an intrinsic law of life: ?Your sins find you out?. Lies make you feel as though you solve a problem quickly but the long-term results of such behavior lead to huge issues of self-esteem. I think the Chelski thing is exactly such an example as I?ve said time and time again. Even when they ?The Mercedes Marxists? or better yet a classic example of an oxymoron ?Rich-Russian Backed Team? (i.e., benevolent dictator) win the EPL, look at what they?re doing with their reputation both in England, Europe and amongst fans of the beautiful game worldwide.
Think about it, when Johann Kruyff says things like ?before long, an empty Stamford Bridge will stand testament to the fans’ disgust at a style of football that makes watching paint dry vastly more appealing. Loathsome Chelsea, said he, is blight on the modern game. Boredom in blue.? When Officials state that their leaving the game or retiring, because of a clubs official comments and fans conduct. When UEFA charges three of your team?s officials, coaches, security for inappropriate behavior and accuses you publicly of being liars. When the EPL and FA are pressing over charges of tapping up of a cross team rival (Arsenal). You?d start to think that the proverbial shite was hitting the fan. No not (oxy)Moron-ho and his glaring example of what he thinks of all the various means of professional behavior by a team and it?s coaches towards the whole infrastructure of European football.
Chelski leadership is the quintessential example of HUBERIS gone completely amuck. What they don?t realize is that they are creating an environment similar to that of the Greek character ?Sisyphus? whose punishment for the same sin of hubris was to push a damn stone up a mountain only to have it role down and push it back up the other side, ad-infinitum. The best I could say about Cheski is that they have the ?Midas touch? but with silver instead of gold. Sadly, at the end of the day when everything you touch turns to ?silver? what good is it if you lost all that you love about football. Truly, they will reap the seeds that they themselves deserve. I?m glad that UEFA had the ?balls? to actually stand up and say ?We think your getting too big for your own shoes and this behavior must stop?, by charging three members of the club, something the spineless FA seems reluctant to do. I hate to say it but the chickens are coming home to roost.
What kills me in all of this is that the sin of pride has so blinded Chelski?s management that they probably think they?re right and that fans worldwide don?t see it. Truly, hubris gone mad.
I?m the kinds of person who like to give second chances but this whole thing has indeed gotten out of hand and Cheski needs at the very least to be censored by the powers that be. This media BS that they dish out as a tissue of lies needs to be stopped. How I don?t know? Maybe, Moron-ho? parish priest needs to make this good catholic boy say a string of rosaries or put on a hair shirt on under his suit, then again maybe UEFA or FIFA needs to make them smart some with something painful other than a fine.
All said, ?Yes Johnny there is a God!? and righteousness does prevail, your sins do find you out. Chelski will indeed get what it deserves with its Midas touch and it?s hubris as we are beginning to see now.
Sadly, is this just the beginning of a new state in the high financed world of sport entertainment, when leaders such as (oxy)Moron-ho become the benchmark of how to behave? A very sad comment on the business of sport and soccer.
In all of this I don?t slight the players of Chelski as they are living out their dream, sadly maybe they don?t realize that money can?t buy you happiness but can most certainly help you spread misery as it seeks company.
March 22nd, 2005 at 11:48 am
Well, for the record… I am not wanting Chelsea thrown out of the CL. I was amazed that this IS actually an option for UEFA!
I actually don’t want points deducted either… although they might deserve it.
I DO think Mourinho is capable of thinking about how to gain advantage with off the pitch actions.
Lets not forget that Barcelona LED Chelsea with about 10 minutes to go. ONE BAD DECISION or NON-CALL can change the outcome. Chelsea’s goal to put them thru to the next round was not without some controversy, was it?! Ref kept the whistle in his pocket… Chelsea win.
I too am a believer in karma. Chelsea will get whats coming to them, so will their jack-ass manager.
March 22nd, 2005 at 12:03 pm
Good points. Still, Mourinho’s actions against Frisk could have backfired. Is he that clever that he thought his intimidation of Frisk, with the help of his scumbag fans, would surely pay off in a no call? He’s gotten them before with the same kind of tactic. I would be almost impressed?disgusted, but impressed?if it was all so calculated. Interesting to consider, but surely we’ll never know.
While most would see his banishment from the sidelines (including the seating area) as cruel and unusual punishment, for me it would fit the crime. His baiting would be muted, and his ego spanked. For me, that’s what its mostly about.
Aside: Munich in a battle royale in the Bundesliga. Come their tie with Chelsea, will they be able to handle the pressure? Same goes of Milan, Juve, etc. Jose’s lads with their safe gap are in the PERFECT position to win it. Really only one thing left to do.
How WONDERFUL it would be for Pool to go through, overcoming their striker crisis with inspiration from the Heysel disaster, only to meet the Blues and STUFF THEM! What a story that would be.
March 22nd, 2005 at 12:08 pm
I dont think the FA has the courage to dock Chelsea any points so everybody should forget it. The worst that the English FA will do to Chelsea is fine them. On the other hand, UEFA will definitely do more than just fine Chelsea. Moanrinho has made unfounded allegations, which have cost UEFA a highly experienced referee. BRING ON THE PAIN!!!
March 22nd, 2005 at 12:09 pm
“Jose is going to expose a lot of things the FA have failed to regulate properly simply because he can..”
Right on!
Sadly it has to be him to do it, truly a oxy-Moron-ho. It is time the FA, UEFA and FIFA start acting on some large problems in the game. I mean with the German thing and then all the bad referees calls throughout the world.
Let’s hope there is a silver lining to all of this.
March 22nd, 2005 at 12:15 pm
“How WONDERFUL it would be for Pool to go through, overcoming their striker crisis with inspiration from the Heysel disaster, only to meet the Blues and STUFF THEM! What a story that would be.”
“Yes Johnny, there is a God!” would be my reply if Liverpool did just that. One can only hope. Wouldn’t that put a smile on a few faces if not a smirk.
March 22nd, 2005 at 3:24 pm
I certainly think that Chelski will get what they have sown one way or the other. You can’t cheat karma…Should be interesting to see what Uefa gives them on Mar 31. In the meantime they have quickly become probably the most hated team in the world and have the union of the referees on their backs. Should be interesting to see how many borderline calls they will get now. Incidents such as that non call on their late goal against Barca may not go their way for a while. Hope that they really enjoy their trophy in the EPL this year cause next year we get it back!! Hope that we go to Stamford bridge in April and give them a football lesson as I know the Arsenal can!
March 22nd, 2005 at 3:25 pm
Indeed it would. The further Pool go, the better for the game. There would be more feet stuck in mouths than kicking balls.
March 22nd, 2005 at 3:40 pm
Chelsea have shown the world approximately what the League trophy costs, and that it is indeed for sale. What a race we would have were they forced to rely on their business acumen and scouting talent. It may have still been a two horse race, but 2 points behind United with 8 games to go? Much better for football than this artificial conclusion.
I know that Chelsea fans the world over are honing their excuses and building their arguments about Mourinho, but the bottom line remains that, were it not for Abromavitch, they may have still won the reserve cup but nothing more.
I hate to be spiteful. I really do. But my very core will be rattled if they win the CL. Not to mention the core of all the teams that rely on a few players that will surely be tapped up in the future. How can it be stopped? Human nature must step in and level the field.
Roll on April and Stamford Bridge.
March 22nd, 2005 at 4:01 pm
Well they certainly have shown for this year that you can buy a championship, or maybe after 50 years they were due to win at some point!! As we see in pro leagues on the side of the pond it isn’t always the teams that spend the most who win. It certainly enables them to compete at a top level and then coaching, injuries ( and having the reserves ) and getting the bounces when needed make the difference.
As for the Chelski squad they obviously have lots of talent, and they have performed at a high level. As for Arsenal I believe that we have as much talent if not more however we have been hit by injuries very hard and as a result have not performed at peak level for much of the season.
I’m thinking that Arsenal is very well positioned to bounce back from this year’s “disappointment” if we can call it that and be back on top next year.
When you consider that Arsenal struggled for 3 months and to be 2 points from Man ure and still way ahead of Everton amazes me. I am very confident in the future of the team in the remaining matches this year and more so for next year.
March 22nd, 2005 at 4:32 pm
True. I’m confident that after the chips fall, we’ll be just fine.
Also true that the team that spends the most doesn’t always win. But the examples we can draw from are a long way from 300+ million and counting. That’s more than just spending a lot of money. Its stealing from other teams and the transfer market. It may breed unrest in the future, but nobody in the history of the modern era has had that kind of depth. Robben was barely missed when he was injured with the likes of Duff, Lampard, etc. etc. Heck, who could afford Joe Cole today?
See ‘em next year. Beat ‘em, too.
March 22nd, 2005 at 4:50 pm
I kind of feel for the Blues fans that love their team for the right reasons. It’s got to be tough to keep coming up with excuses for “what’s your-price?” Mourinho. The older supporters, especially. what glory is there in a trophy greedily snatched in this way? Embarrassing, really. I hpe the UEFA treats his “unfounded indescretions” as the larger symptom of the burgeoning greater probmem on the horizon and punishes apropriately, by which I don’t mean a stupid fine.
As my Ma used to warn us when we were kids, “the stars are always watching, even when you can’t see them.” The man is due his Karmic comeippance. And may I say here…
Thank you, Arsene, for being the man of honor that you are. So happy we don’t have to suffer such egomaniacle stunts. We’ll never have to wonder fi he lies. We’ll never have to wonder if he’s schemeing, and The Arsenal Football Club benefits fomr his upstanding character all the way. It takes courage to stick it out and stay the course, and Arsene has remained loyal to his M.O. throughout a challenign year, and we will see the beauty of his logic AND faith next year, and dare I hope in the remainging matches. Our style of football is so obviously different, but we don’t preen and strut and say, “look how different we are from you, that makes us better or more interesting.” We just go out and get the job done, while playing beautiful football at that. A lot of that lack of hubris is thanks to Le Prof. Henry’s comments abotu staying on prove it.
I for one am proud of him and proud of our team (sneaky Cole the exception)!
Gunners!!!
dave T.
March 22nd, 2005 at 5:46 pm
Scotty, a truly thoughtful comment from you. Brilliant!
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:08 am
stag,
I’m with you on this all the way. Moanwhingo and his antics make Taggart and his mind games bearable. You can’t fine him or Chelsea as they are well off being subbed by the Russian fairy godmother that any financial penalties against them is nothing more than loose change!
What needs to be done to bring them down a peg is this……..
1) 20 point deduction! (10 for tapping Cole and 10 for tapping Gerrard)
2) Five year ban from all European club competitions!(after the way they hounded Swedish ref Anders Frisk into retiring from football)
3) Automatic relegation to Coca-Cola League One (for denying they ever met Cole in the first place only to admit that they did meet him one month after lying that they didn’t)
4)They start their League One campaign with a minus 10 point deduction!
5) No more incoming transfers to Stamford Bridge for 5 years!
FIFA, UEFA and the FA must now show that they have balls and show those ingrates from SW6 that they can’t be above the law and intimidate all and sundry!!!
I for one can’t wait to see the faces of Moanwhingo, Kenyon, the Russian fairy godmother and especially that obnoxious loud mouth Chelsea scumbag tosser from Fox Football Friday when they are found guilty of these irregularities and have the book thrown at them!!!!
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:10 am
Who cares if it is a hollow victory. Would you rather have a team that has constantly intimidated others by lying, and cheating like those blue scumbags have done this season win the championship?
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:12 am
Like the UEFA head of referees said…..MOANWHINGO IS THE ENEMY OF FOOTBALL!!!!
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:18 am
Bottom line here…is that what comes around goes around. Moanwhingo has been getting away with things for the last couple of years. Remember the way Porto players were diving all over the pitch against Celtic in the UEFA Cup final a few years ago. Then when Chelsea played Manure in the Carling semi this year, he accused Taggart’s boys of cheating by falling over in the same manner? The tosser needs be brought down a peg or two! And if it means banning Chelsea from Europe as well as docking points off them in order to tell the Stamford Bridge hiearchy that they cannot bully others to get what they want then so be it!!!!!
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:20 am
So it’s ok with you that Chelsea win the league by cheating and lying?
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:23 am
The message that should be sent to Chelsea by the authorities is that…….”FIFA, UEFA and the FA run the sport! Not Moanwhingo, Kenyon and the Russian fairy godmother!!!!!!!!!” If they can’t abide by the rules then they should pay the consequences!!!! The head of refeering called Moanwhingo “the enemy of football”. I’d go further than that and call him “the cancer of football”
March 23rd, 2005 at 1:25 am
Would be only be the second time I would want a German team to beat an English team. The other occasion was when bayern played United in the ‘99 CL final.
March 23rd, 2005 at 5:09 am
When you listen the story, at the break Mourinho shouted loud to FRISK: “CAN I ALSO COME INTO YOUR DESSING ROOM”?
This was at half time so before Drogba sending off in the second half.Drogba could havebeen sent off before his attack on the keeper in the six yards box, for a second bad late chalenge on Marquez.
His late chalenge on the goalkeeper in the six yard box deserved even a direct card.
Frisk’s performance was very good at Bar?a, but Chelski had a plan before the game like Porto did by CHEATING/BUYING REFREES and play their dirty tactics to grab the required goals.
The cours are inversting Porto’s cheating in both domestic and internationals game.
Mourihno’s attack on FRISK was deliberately calculated and planned for before even the first leg. That’s why Mourinho started his attack on Frisk before any controversial ruling.
He wanted to use WHAT HE SAID to win the return leg and the whole world knows that now.
No matter what sanction is taken against their dirty, disloyal tactics, people are officially aware now of the DANGER represented by CHELSEA.
Carvalo/Terry late goal is the result of Mourinho good planning.
Thsi what he’s done at Porto.
Surely Mourinho knew Porto were buying Refs, that’s why Chelsea paid millions of pound to a top ref to come and train with them.
Did a professional need a ref to understand the rule of the game ? Of course not, but when you train with someone you become familiar with, because you share your fears and dreams, and that could prove decisif at CRUCIAL TIMES.
Chelsea like Porto win at crucial times by any means necessairy.
LAMPARD needed a yellow card against Liverpool, to miss the next cup game and keep going on his record breaking run for premiership appearance.
He came in the game with the need of a yellow. He knew considering the respect refs have for english stars, he would have to risk to break the leg of Alonso (liverpool best player so far in the game!) with a TOO LATE AND VICIOUS CHALENGE FROM THE BACK.
This is the worst you can do to win the game. But this reminded me Porto the last two seasons. There isn’t any kind of respect for opponents.
If they can kill you to win the game, that is OK for them.
The cole affair show a dep desire fromChelski to scare people even more with their money, but people can accept indefinitly.
Chelski is not Mourinho, they should be allowed to go on, but UEFA decide to ban Chelski from the CL, that will be fair too.
They won in an unfair way. Justice could mean, their ban. Roma lost 3 points when Frisk was attacked there. Chelsea could loose the return as his goals was a foul on the keeper. The same reason Drogba received a card for.
Mourinho backed his player because it was his own plan.
I expect UEFA to ban Mourinho for a year or at least six mounth from the game, as they did with Mutu.
Jose’s more dangerous than Mutu.
March 23rd, 2005 at 8:34 am
Okay with me? Never. But you still have to put 11 men out there and they still have to do the job. They have. I don’t agree with how they put them together, but there’s sweat on that field and it should be honored…with an asterix.