Exit 4, Enter 1 or 2 ARSENAL’S PROBLEM - Perspective from Chicago
Jan 27

Note: Sorry for this negativity, but this is cause I am concerned about Arsenal. I am just trying to understand what is going on.

I am not writing this after our defeat to Everton or even our ?Naive? Carling Cup exit, I am saying this based on some stories and indication I saw since the last couple of months from the past season.

1- Edu : Why would someone like Edu leaves a teams that has been winning at least silver wear every season, and he was also playing very often. Arsenal has the money to offer him a bit more salary. Buying another Mid would cost Arsenal more than the 20 or 30% to his salary.

2- The surprising cheap sale to Veirra. As if Arsenal was waiting for some team to sell him for. Even Veirra left without concerns, but he still loves Arsenal as we have seen him before watching our games ?

3- Lehman and Alumina not liking each other ? an both don?t speak to each other

4- Colegate story ? why would Cole think to leave a team he loved, grew up in, and even won titles with, to a Rival ? there is only something behind it and the story that came after it is part of the plan.

5- Henry and Barca story ! Same thing, why would Henry want to leave Arsenal where he won titles and games to another team that he might face the same losing saga he had with Juventus.

6- Sendy from Tondy Adams to Cygan ! Last season he looked waaaay more confident and looked very sharp. This season he looks confused and clumsy just like another Cygan in our team especially with his shaved head. The internal problem has been reflected badly on him. His young age plays a very big part. Imagin a 20 year old surrounded with these problems. Sendy with his National Team is like last year, he is very reliable. GREAT.


7- Sol : HE was the rock now he is hole in our defense. Don?t tell me injury, he is still 31 .. he is not 39 ?

8- Bob : I don?t need to say anything about him, almost left the club, they still talk about it. He sucked in most of the games, but how can you become so inconsistent at this age.

9- Gilberto: From the great CM to the useless CM. Last year, when Gilberto played he was there and you would notice him, but this year, I feel that he is not in the line up. Where is the that world cup winner ?

10- The new signings this January are very weird. As if AW was sleeping all this season. I just don?t understand the signings.

11- The summer rejects that we had from SWP, Robinho and Babtisa. Why would they reject a full time play in a team that wins titles to sit on the bench With Cheslea or Real Madrid. ? they knew something wrong in our team.

12- Goal celebrations: Last year and before, player would surround each other and hug each other. This season each player celebrates by himself or with his friend.

13- Game reports, AW is like this media talker who says the same thing after every game. He never was like this. As if he is buying time ..

14- The board made a statement that AW was the best signing the club made in their history. Saying to him, if you suck you still be the manager. ?its one of those public announcements that tries to reflect a fallacy statement to trick the public?

15- We tend to do soooo well at home, but veeeerrrrry bad away. We are almost like Chelsea at home, but like Sunderland away. ?
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There are very weird things going, and I don?t think our players are as bad as our performance. There is not determination since game one. We needed Grandpa Bergy to beat Thun, then we give up in the last second against Wigan, then once we concede a goal we stop playing and we give the game to the opponent. And wait for the 90 to be over. I don?t think our players are as bad to lose against WBA or Everton or even Boro, as we saw Arsenal crushed Boro at home, we beat Everton fairly well at home

I feel Arsenal is like this team in ?Dream Team? show that FSC shows ?Heart Chester United?. Full of **AYE CARUMBA**(censored) and problems ?

When some folks here said that we will suck this year, I was surprised, cause we have fairly good players to make at least in Liverpool?s position. But I guess they were right if they were pointing this issue. !

I am ready to scarify with any player in order to see Arsenal improving internally first.

29 Responses to “Arsenal has internal problems.”

  1. goonerluke Says:

    Nothing in there is really new information. Even in year’s when we won the double, if you only wanted to look at the negative, you could find 15 ‘internal problems.’

    Don’t lose the plot. Arsenal is bigger than one season. I think you give our young players and Wenger far too little credit. It is the old guard who is letting the team down. Wenger didn’t see it coming and is having to deal with it this season. He’ll sort it out come this summer, because he has too.

  2. stag133 Says:

    Edu left because he didn’t see enough first team action… usually started only when Gilberto or Vieira were hurt or rested.
    He would have actually fit in the plan nicely. It tells me we didn’t go into the Summer with the intent to sell Vieira, nor did Vieira intend to leave. There was no links of his move… then he was gone.
    Still THE BIGGEST ISSUE left unresolved and un-addressed.
    The players LOVED Edu, if you remember his last match last season. He was well liked.

    The sale of Vieira made ZERO sense. Sorry. I am never going to buy into it. No replacement, not thought out at all. It has killed us this season.

    I don’t care about Lehmann & Almunia. They are competing for the same job… its natural they are not best friends… its common in many lines of work.

    I don’t get the Ashley Cole scenario, but it could be internal… the french cliques in the team, and maybe HE wanted the captaincy?
    Still have no idea why he’d want to leave… other than the team is POOR now, and the immediate future is not very bright for the AFC.

    Henry … lets face reality. He’s CLASS. But he wants to win titles and trophies. He can make money ANY WHERE HE PLAYS, and LOTS OF IT.
    He loves Arsenal, but we are showing ZERO in terms of immediate ambition. He’s gotta be scratching his head at the January signings. If thats all we’re buying, he’s gone.
    (unless we are top 4 in the EPL, and Wenger tells him we’re buying in the Summer)

    Sol is slowed by injury more than age. He just ain’t right and its compounded because he was never very fleet of foot in the first place.

    Bob… SERVICE?!
    He is very good with Cole running up the left side and over-lapping… he has great comraderie and is in-sync with Henry when all guns are blazing. He was 2nd leading scorer in the league… last year. The fall has been quick. He could still rebound, but it probably won’t be here. This will be another of TH14’s buddies gone if he goes… adding more fuel to Henry leaving… (just my opinion)

    Gilberto needs a “Vieira type” to play the back 4 shield and positional game that he plays so well. Cesc does not allow him to do this. He suffers big time because of it. He didn’t lose his abilities overnight… he’s just being asked to do more than ever before, and he’s not adapting well. Thats for sure.

    The signings in January are USELESS for this season. They are for 2 years down the road. We needed help NOW.

    Summer rejects? Robinho and Baptista were NEVER coming to Arsenal over playing in Spain with Real Madrid… thats stupid to think they would.

    Goal celebrations?
    Maybe if we won a bit more and scored more often you’d see it. I read NOTHING into this. I’ve actually seen Reyes and Henry getting along fine. Score more and you’d see more celebrating.

    Wenger after matches is a joke. I’d rather he say nothing at all (like Bill Belechick), than excuse after excuse after excuse. Its pathetic. He looks stupid saying what he’s said. He’s far too intelligent for that non-sense.

    The Home v Road thing?
    Can’t figure it for the life of me.
    Younger players in a hostile atmosphere, out of their element… and a team without belief in themselves… when things go a bit wrong, we run and hide, and it snowballs.
    SAD.

    I never thought we’d be this bad. I didn’t think we could compete with United / Chelsea / Liverpool… because we didn’t get better in the off-season… we got far worse. I wish I was wrong about it… but many of us saw there were problems with the depth and the talent.

    Its been a really tough season so far.
    I just can’t see the ship being righted without help in the form of some incoming talent. I don’t think Wenger is up to the task of actually doing that. I think we’ll be stuck with what we’ve got, and I don’t think its good enough for a top 4 spot.

    IF … IF that happens, I fear you’ll see an even wosre Summer of departures, and a much worse 2006-2007 season.

    Its watch and pray time for Arsenal supporters. Two years ago, it was an entirely different world. I thought we could beat any team in the world. Now we are hoping for a draw with Bolton in the FA Cup, to get the replay back home?!
    HELP!

  3. Mazza Says:

    We’re not asking too much of Gilberto, all the guy has to do is pass the ball five yards and actually put his foot in when he tackles. He does the job dandy at home but away from home Cesc has to cover his ass at every turn. I don’t think Gilberto is that good in his invisible wall role to justify playing a defensive person next to him. Our attacking from the middle is piss poor as it is. Fabregas is not the answer at the minute although he has been the best of a very mediocre bunch. I personally think the pathetic performances of our experienced players and general defensive unit has affected Fabregas to a great extent. If you notice he always starts every away game with intent and bustling with ideas but after we go a goal behind or start to track back to bail out our defence, Fabregas’s influence wanes and he is often in flash-points because of the frustration he feels. The Gilberto’s of this world are letting him down big-time.

  4. NL11 Says:

    You may be on to something, but I’m not sure of your list as several of the items you delineate seem vastly overstated. On the other hand, many of the issues you point out, seem to me, the result of a bigger problem, rather than the problem themselves. I think it comes down to $$$. What else? And here, there very well may be two things going on.

    The first I’m certain of: Chelsea is ruining the EPL with its inflated transfers. They have killed the effectiveness of the transfer market, especially for the top clubs as they can easily double any offer. Teams with talented prospects know this and more importantly, players? agents know this. This summer Arsenal could have used some very good players, but they literally had ZERO chance of getting them. Not only will Chelsea pay a ridiculous premium for talent, they will pay even more to keep talent off their closest opponents? roster so that they can languish on the Stamford Bridge bench. Until players say no to transferring to Chelsea?s backup squad or the FA steps in, this problem will not go away.

    The other I?m less certain of, but think there must be something going on. It has to do with Arsenal?s financial situation at the moment. No football fan loves to read these articles. They are quite boring and often too few appear to really give a good sense of what is happening. But I have read, on a frighteningly regular basis, how Arsenal is up to its nose in debt. And there is the occasional read about how the luxury boxes at the new stadium are not selling as hotly as once believed and so on. Of course, these reports get contradicted as well. You sometimes read that the club is the hottest brand in the sport and that the new stadium will unleash millions of more euros to go hunting for talent across Europe. Who knows? But I would say that a club that has a financial worry or two, might be the sort of club to try to pull a year off on the cheap, not buy new talent (especially at inflated prices) and milk the last year of a classic playing ground for all its worth. Could this be the case this year at Arsenal? You be the judge. I say it is happening. I hope I am wrong, because there is one major landmine awaiting the AFC board with such a cynical football married to business strategy?missing the Champions League. If that happens, it could be a Leeds style downward spiral for our Gunners next year. I pray not.

  5. NL11 Says:

    Great line by line analysis. I couldn’t agree more Stag133. Especially on your points regarding Edu and Gilberto. Our centre was literally gutted this summer and the team’s management lack of planning here was woeful. I think (and I posted on this seperately) that the team has some financial troubles and planned to milk the last season at Highbury to improve the bottom line. It is backfiring, of course, as players they counted on like Robert, Freddie and Sol have lost their form. I shudder to say this, but I think we need to throw everything at securing our CL spot for next season even if that means giving up on the FA and CL cups (I mean what shot do we have anyway in the latter) this season. Secure Henry asap. Deal Robert and Sol and buy excitig and big to launch the new grounds. Again, thanks for your well stated posts.

  6. Curtisimo Says:

    I’m glad I’m not some people on this site. Going on & on about the problems at Arsenal.

    Every where in the world, there’s this entitlement mentality that whenever things go even remotely wrong, out come the finger-pointing, the calling for heads, the blame game, the moaning, the incessecant reminiscing of a lost Eden & how good things used to be, etc.

    The seriousness & the amount of emotional investment people put into sports teams just never fails to astound me.

    After the year I’ve just lived through & the perspective it has brought to me, I can never again take any of this aggrandizement of a sports team’s doings or perceived shortcomings/faults seriously.

  7. ScottyUS Says:

    Sorry to hear about your tough year, Curtisimo. I’ve had a few myself. As I recall you’re struggling down in NO. Certainly beyond the scope of a trophy hunt, but why come here to ridicule?

    There’s absolutley nothing wrong with being passionate about The Arsenal. In some ways its just another part of life in which to revel, in others its an education and some of us even take a page or two into the management of our lives. I know I do.

    And no matter how many times there’s sh*t in my existence and I take an eye-opener to the neck, I always come back. A luxury, my heartache when we suffer? Sure. So what?

    Pathetic to some maybe, but I can’t help it. And for the record, my perspective’s just fine.

  8. USGunner Says:

    I think we need to differentiate between struggles on the field and the club falling apart. For various and oft debated reasons our play has been below standard, however, the Club as a whole are still headed in the right direction and most of the players are queing up to sign long-term contracts (Gilberto, Cesc, FL8, RvP, etc.). I would say that some of the examples you site could appear alarming at first, but I think are non-factors when you get down to it:

    Bob does not have many playing years left. Consequently, I think his priority has to be financial security. Any money he makes has got to last him a long time, and a two-year contract means guaranteed money. I believe he would rather stay a Gunner, but if someone else is willing to provide more security he may go.

    Henry’s only statement has been that he would prefer to stay with the Club. There is no guarantee that he will for sure stay, but what we are reading at the moment is just tabloid fiction.

    Mad Jens is, well, mad! And he is very competitive. He seems like the type that choses to not be friends with anyone he views as competition and he views Almunia as competition for his place.

    Edu left because he wasn’t playing and he thought moving was best for his career. I think it was pretty clear at the end of last year that it was a very difficult decision for him.

    Ash is a greedy prick. With everything that has taken place I would be surprised if he stuck around.

    SWP, Robinho and Babtisa went elsewhere because 1) they got paid more than they would’ve here, and 2) because they thought there was more glory to be had elsewhere.

    The new signings are all young players which I think reflects the direction the team is headed in. From that perspective, I think they are very good signings.

  9. irishgunner Says:

    Look, you can make that kind of list about any club. Take ManU

    1. Keane - captain goes on TV and slags the players off.

    2. Ronaldo - gets more petulant with every game, picking up bookings and sendings-off

    3. Rooney - kid who can’t control his temper and no-one to show him how

    4. Van Nistleroy - in the papers every summer looking to get away to Madrid or Juventus

    5. Keane - captain walks away from club to play in lesser league.

    6. Van Nistleroy and Ronaldo not liking each other and having a training bust-up.

    7. Scholes mystery illness so not playing again this season

    8. Ferdinand - never the same after his drugs suspension, was looking like a great player, now a shadow

    9. Giggs - Decline from the best left midfielder in Europe to what?

    10. The new signings in January are very weird. Where is the central midfielder we are crying out for?

    11. The rejections from Ballack, Ronaldinho, Robben, That Nigerian/Norweigan, who wants to live in Manchester?

    12. Tunnel clashes - everyone else stopped doing those ten years ago

    13. After match manager comments - still refuses to talk to half the press and what he doesn’t say about refs. Spends half his time in the F.A. explaining himself.

    14. The chief executive Gill has made a statement saying the manager’s job is his as long as he wants it

    15. We tend to do so well at home and so bad in Europe.

    See, what club do you want me to do a list for next. It would work on anyone except Chelsea (might only get to ten)

    Or you could ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE.

  10. stag133 Says:

    Thanx NL11.
    There is definitely some question / suspicion of financial difficulties causing our relative inactivity in the transfer market. (until very recently!)…
    I don’t think we should throw away our chance at the FA Cup to make the top 4 in the league. We have to get better players in the squad, and play better football. Not having CL and FA Cup games isn’t really going to help do that?!
    Ashley Cole will help if we can get him on the pitch and contributing…
    If we can manage to sign Henry NOW… or soon even… that would be BRILLIANT. If I were Henry, I’d wait to see if Wenger plans on bringing anyone else in during this transfer window… if he doesn’t, I’d say… I love Arsenal, but I will wait til the Summer to make up my mind. I am not sure we have the same ambitions… If I were Henry, I wouldn’t waste my PRIME on trying to get back into the CL, and on potential youngsters coming good at the Arsenal. If we are SERIOUS about winning trophies and conquering the footballing world, then we’d be looking at bringing in the likes of a Michael Ballack or Thomas Gravesen NOW.

  11. stag133 Says:

    Your points are valid and well taken.
    But the signings do not help THIS current team during this season. Thats the big issue, as we aren’t in the top 4, and missing next years CL would give Henry and Cole added incentive to depart for greener pastures. There is no guarantee we’d make the top 4 next season either. Why should Henry care about the 2008-2009 team? His prime is now.

  12. stag133 Says:

    Yes, but currently Manchester United are in 2nd place in the EPL…
    They are NOT in danger of missing out on CL football next season, like we are…
    They just beat Liverpool… we haven’t beaten a good team in a long long time…
    And they aren’t under the financial strains of opening a huge new stadium.
    Also, our best two players are rumored to be LEAVING in Henry and Cole, we have NO OTHER STARS on the team…

    Liverpool are in 3rd place… with 2 matches in hand, and they are also NOT in any danger of missing out on next years CL. They are still in this years CL… and are signing players and stockpiling talent… They’re immediate future is probably brighter than even United’s… hell, they’re even willing to take a chance on bringing back ROBBIE FOWLER!
    Do you think we’d take back our FOWLER? in Nic Anelka?… I’d like to see us try! At least he’d have an immediate impact.

    Its not all roses, sorry…
    United Liverpool and Chelsea are by far in a better position than we are… NONE of them are going to free-fall out of the top 4, or are going to lose their only 2 star players if they did.

  13. Curtisimo Says:

    I’m not meaning to ridicule but the “life & death” some seem to take things is just bizarre to me.

    Passion doesn’t have to equate with “life & death” b/c if you die with your losses, then how can you have passion when you’re ‘dead?’ Not literally speaking of course.

    But the constant negativity & dour attitudes every time something goes wrong is one of the reasons why I don’t frequent here much any more.

    Who knows? Maybe I’m just a buffoon for not just letting the comments slide… :)

    There, that feels better. Or… or that may be the alcohol starting to kick in. Either way, positive attitude for tomorrow, 2-1, in extra time, us.

  14. Curtisimo Says:

    You actually articulated much better than what I was thinking.

    I think that some people, b/c of the heights of success we have reached in Wenger’s tenure, are equating the on field disappoint of this season with the overall health of the club. I’m pretty sure the club is in healthy, financial position for the next few years even if there is no CL football. Partly b/c of Wenger’s timidness in the transfer market & not spending like a drunken sailor on leave & the simple fact that Arsenal has seemed to be a more shrew club when it comes to spending its available money.

    I truly believe the club’s overall standing is in good order even with the possibility of no CL football next year or the following year.

  15. Curtisimo Says:

    “And they aren’t under the financial strains of opening a huge new stadium.”

    Come on, stag. That’s a bit of a misnomer. All the Mancunians were all in a tizzy when Glazer took over b/c they were worried about debt from the financed part of their club’s buyout.

    I also believe that financial worries of opening the new stadium is a bit overhyped, or at least from what I thought I had heard. I thought most of next season’s tickets were sold already? No CL football would only cut into profits. The club would still have profits w/o CL football from what I heard, just not as large of course if there was CL football.

    Doesn’t a club get some 25-30 million just from being in the EPL? At that rate plus merchandising plus tv income the stadium could be paid for in several years to a decade even w/o CL football.

    As long as we don’t pull a Leeds & spend ourselves into near oblivion with signings, we’ll be fine financially. At that point, Wenger’s timidness in the transfer market may be a good thing if there truly is a few years w/o CL football on the horizon.

  16. Curtisimo Says:

    Oh sorry, one thing I forgot to mention.

    I think irishgunner’s point though was that Man U live on a cusp also. Their club’s standing has the potential to turn south really quickly too.

    Wasn’t it Gill recently who said that they budget for reaching the quarterfinals or 2nd round of the CL? SO 2 years of not getting there in the CL shouldn’t that make them in a financial quandry? Or is it just overblown hype?

    And why would you want Anelka back? I think he’d be nothing but a disruptive force. I think he’s too selfish of a player & not a team player. He’d link up with Cole & they’d run off to Real at the January transfer window next year! :)

    P.S. Remember, it could be worse… Tottenham could’ve taken Roman instead of shooing him off & he chose Chelsea! :)

  17. Curtisimo Says:

    I think you’re feeling is correct.

    Remember, Leeds only had a couple years of CL football & they also spent like drunken sailors on players & they also had cancerous type players such as Bowyer in their squad.

    They also had O’Leary as a manager who has never really done too much as a manager. Look at him at Villa. Sseveral years in a row of what you could call underachieving.

  18. stag133 Says:

    That may be the case… we could be fine financially even if we don’t make the CL.
    But we won’t be “fine” on the pitch, because Henry and Cole and star players aren’t interested in playing for just a high spot in the league!

  19. stag133 Says:

    Curt… your points are well taken.
    But without CL football and playing well… the average person isn’t able to afford to shell out the cost of football for very long at the prices Arsenal are charging. Average fans are already priced out in many cases.
    You lose the periphery fans if you are not good… very very good… and you need every seat sold that you can if you are Arsenal.

    Anelka Upson Vieira… again, it was tongue in cheek. I’d personally take each and every one of them back at the moment… because they are better than what we have. They’d be an improvement and add depth.
    But I’m not insane enough to think we’d go after any of them… we don’t buy proven talent.

    United are gonna make next years CL… there is a lot of money in getting to the tournament. Its a big financial loss NOT to.

  20. gerard Says:

    I agree, yours is a cynical perspective.

    While I believe management might try something so stupid I don’t think it has any bearing on how the clubs established players are playing just now.

    Additionally, it is probably counterproductive for management, if they try and save a dime only to loose a tenner; i.e. TH14 was to go as a result. Truth, it’s better for the club to win and in the end it earns you more money than to go scrimping or “year on the cheap” (go ask Chelsea).
    Besides I’m sure the pooh-bahs upstairs have at least half a mind between them: as in giving Henry what he wants and staying in the CL as both equate to $ and cents.

    We loose a few games, have a bad season and now we’re like Leeds -> Coke-A-Cola bound downwards, for not spending money? I think not that was the difference between Arsenal and Leeds; Leeds spent money.

    I agree completely with the priority of staying in the CL. I’m also in accord with your perspective on how Chelsea is buggering up the EPL. I might also admit that Arsenal could have money trouble but I don’t think so, at least according to their financial statements.

    I just think we have some guys who need a different motivation to play better than some have this season. It’s whats hurting the club but not a financial conspiracy.

    I liked your scoop on it, I just don’t want to believe it. It could also be construed as another excuse for poor play.

    I’m with you on the praying to, big time!

  21. Curtisimo Says:

    Yes, b/c we’ve never had great players before.

    Henry & Cole leaving would be a big loss but the potential for success would not end with their departure.

    You have a valid point Stag. However, I think the argument can be made that Van Persie has the potential to become a great forward like Henry. Is that to say he’ll be as good as Henry? No. But does he have the potential to be a forward good enough to lead us to league titles? IMO, yes.

    They may not be satisfied with playing for high spots in the league but then again, if that were the case then why would anybody sign for clubs like Tottenham? I think we have to give some portion of professional athletes more credit for the ambition to actually win things on their own & build the success than to walk into guaranteed success.

    Look at Chelsea. There’s already players leaving & wanting to leave & it’s only going to get worse. Why? They won a trophy last year. But it wasn’t enough for some players b/c they don’t play regularly. And as soon as the ‘magic’ wears off & Chelsea starts to lose some games consistently, the rats will want to desert the ship b/c while money can buy success, it can’t guarantee it long-term (it may guarantee the potential for it) no matter what people say.

  22. Curtisimo Says:

    Yes but some clubs b/c of the way they spend money can sitll get into the ECL & actually lose money.

    Look at some of ther Italian clubs like Roma & Lazio that despite the windfall of ECL money still got into financial trouble b/c they spent on the same budget as if getting into the ECL. It’s just like governments. There’s all these “debts” b/c governments don’t take in the same amount of revenue but yet they continue to spend at the same or increasing rates as to create some of these “losses” b/c of their inability to manage their finances properly.

    That’s what I mean about Arsenal’s situation. I think that past few years of frugalness has been preparation for the possibility of an ECL-less season(s). Clubs like Leeds & Lazio & Fiorentina spent like they didn’t plan for possible donwturns in either form or income. I may be wrong, I’m man enough to admit that, but I’m willing to think that Arsenal have at least done some preparation for missing out on ECL football.

    Cheers, mate! & let’s kick Walrus face’s arse tomorrow/today!

  23. gerard Says:

    Right on! That sums it up just about right to me.

    I also think we’re heading in the right direction.
    It is just one of those 2 steps forward and 3 steps backward years. Transition between old and new.

    Then it still hurts to watch them loose to such teams as Everton and forbid the thought they should give up on chasing the CL.

  24. gerard Says:

    “I can never again take any of this aggrandizement of a sports team’s doings or perceived shortcomings/faults seriously.”

    I don’t think any of us take ourselves that seriously or at least I hope not.

    Look I just love the Arsenal and want to see the club do well. Then some might say what might motivates me is that I can watch EPL on the television here and not Ajax.

    That said, I’ve made a commitment to this club and I’m having fun doing it. I love it all the ups and downs, the colours and the camaraderie.

    I’m an artist. When I was in art school and I looked out the studio window on to the football field and saw all those guys hugging and slapping ass, I thought they were the gay ones. Little did I know they thought most artists were queer.

    I enjoy this sports stuff and nobody is forcing me to type, not even my ego or I get paid to do it.

    Just having some fun and doing what I like, even when it gets serious.

    It doesn’t pay my analyst but it makes me feel healthy to care for something.

  25. USGunner Says:

    Thanks for the comments.

    Stag in response to your concerns about Henry, I think most Gooners fear the same thing. However, circumstances may dictate that first team get a lot younger over the course of this season and next (the premature aging and/or poor play of the veterans may force Wenger?s hand). If that is the case, we may have to resign ourselves to the fact that such an environment would not be the best place for Henry. And while his departure would certainly be sad to see and would represent the end of an era, I don?t feel that it would be the end of Arsenal FC. It just means we would have to shift our focus onto the creation of the next great Gunner era. And given the prospects of the new stadium and the core of young players we have now, those teams could be even better than any of the last decade?s teams.

  26. USGunner Says:

    Way to finish off the thread Curtisimo.

    2-1 to the Arsenal!

  27. Ozzy Says:

    I think you guys are reading too much into this season. If it continued for 2 seasons straight then yes there might be a cause for concern but just give the players and especially the AW chance this season. He is a deep thinker and I am sure he wants to fix this problem. A lil patience never hurt anyone….

  28. Anonymous Says:

    Now we had someone even knew what’s going on “behind the scene”?! And you can actually tell there is something wrong internally from players’ goal celebration?

  29. BreakAway Says:

    12- Goal celebrations: Last year and before, player would surround each other and hug each other. This season each player celebrates by himself or with his friend

    Who can tell me what happened?

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